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January 5th, 2003, 12:28 AM
#21
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Chambers w/Scofield: Pick Hits, Pick Hits Live
Trilok Gurtu: solo from Live at Royal Festival Hall
-almost anything by Bonham.
-anything Gadd touches.
Alex Van Halen: Jump (why not [img]wink.gif[/img] )
Dave Lombardo/Slayer: Angel of Death
Cobham: One Word/Stratus
Joey Heredia: tunes from the Tribal Tech compilation (amazing).
Mike Clark/Headhunters: Actual Proof
-anything by Garibaldi.
Purdie: Babylon Sisters
JR Robinson: Off the wall
Porcaro: Gaucho
Liberty deVitto: Just the Way you are
Eye of the Beholder: Weckl/Elektric Band
-Nightwalker: Gino Vanelli
To name a few.
MethodAir
www.electricmountain.com
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January 6th, 2003, 06:32 PM
#22
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Funny thing, Method, is that people either liked 'Jump' or they hated it; i personally liked it [4 a silly 'upbeat/happy/pop/rock' song! [img]tongue.gif[/img] ] - what really made that tune, IMHO, was the great classic EVH gtr solo sect'n, & the simple-yet-effective "deceptive-at-1st" rock-gruv that Alex puts under it [it's in 4/4, but he subs it into trips at 1st: 3, 3, then 2 [dwnbt on the 4+], [upbt on the 1+], etc ...
My fav tunes on 1984, tho, were 'Hot 4 Teach., Girl Gone Bad [aggressive, jammin rock tune; EVH's gtr sound is, as always, monstrous], & Top Jimmy;'...'Hot-' being a take-off of the classic Cobham [then SimonP/RodM, etc] DB-Shuf gruv, w/ an 'inverted jazz-swing' ride pattern [who'da thunkit [img]wink.gif[/img] ]; & 'Girl-' was just way cool [& very underrated/-played]...
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& i'm gonna go ahead & do it & add Virgil - his gruvs off his solo proj's [Alien Hip-Hop; Pyramids on Mars; Banana Peels; etc, etc]; & the PX stuff [Live-Oz & MoonBabies]; 'cuz a lot of it's really gruvin sh-tuff [despite the blaz'g pyrotechnics.... [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] ]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2003 02:46 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
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January 6th, 2003, 10:10 PM
#23
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Yea, Fuse, that section is great. They throw in some really cool things, without confusing anyone. I figured out that whole section, and to play it, the feel is so great. And the chorus of that tune, with the hh's and ride cymbal...again, very unusual but your average southerner with a bottle of bud in his hand is grooving to it like everyone else. More depth than meets the eye... 'can't you see me standing here I got my back against the wrecking machine...' Pretty cool.
I forgot to mention 'When the world is running down', one of my favorite Police tunes.
MethodAir
www.electricmountain.com
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January 6th, 2003, 11:33 PM
#24
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Joey Heredia's stuff on the older Tribal Tech self-titled CD is really nice. There's a tune on there called Dence Dance that has a groove that feels great and is really hard to play. He opens the hat a sixteenth after the downbeat and it flows very nicely. I heard Zach Danzinger do that with Wayne as well.
Overall Stewart Copelands stuff has always wowed me. His feel is nice while being fairly busy on the hat. I enjoy Dennis' fat grooves as well. Especially on Gary Willis' BENT. If you don't have that you should get it. Now I mean. Stop what you're doing and get it. Here is a link so you don't even have to search.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2003 07:35 PM: Message edited by: Steve Holmes ]</font>
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January 7th, 2003, 01:07 AM
#25
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I'm sick, got cabin fevor, so I'll add more...
I agree Steve, Stewart always sounded good on vinyl. The hat sound was always so crisp and defined. He was an original- signature feel. Maybe it was growing up and living in all those lands as a military kid.
He was busy on the hats and almost never rolled down the toms for a fill. The toms always supported the groove. I remember seeing the live Police video in the mid 80's and he looked so loose and wild playing, but always sounded so good, especially on record.
I must say, a guy who never is mentioned is the cat from Supertramp. His fills as he pulled from the time were just different- stuff I would never naturally do. I always respect a drummer who sounds great live, and their live LP is excellent. His time and feel was solid- light touch and very musical.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2003 09:08 PM: Message edited by: PocketPlayer ]</font>
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January 7th, 2003, 06:56 AM
#26
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Pocket - your 2nd-to-last post - r u readin my mind or someth'g?! U named some killer tunes that i had 4gotten to mention!! But seeing the list brought it all back...
I would add "Magic Man" & "Crazy On You" to your Derosier ["Barracuda" was a very cool tune - used to cover it in a former band]...
I believe Supertramp's drumr at the time was Bob C. Benberg, another 1 that i 4got to mention; very underrated - did some nice stuff; & very musical/pocket oriented..."Goodbye Stranger," "Take a look at my girlfriend...[song title?]", Breakfast In America, ST Live, etc etc...
Da** if i 4got to mention Stew C/Police [a good horse-whippin is due me..]
Also, John Keane, Prairie Prince, & Tris Imboden from Richard Marx's 1st solo album...
Barriemore Barlow, from Tull's 'Heavy Horses' & Yngwie's 1st album ['Now Your Ships r Burned,' etc]...
Chris Blackwell & Chris Hughes w/ Robert Plant...
John Blackwell, & any1 w/ Prince since the late-'80's-early-'90's] [ex.: "Diamonds & Pearls," "Morning Papers," etc]...
1 more Alex VH note: I hated his live drum solos [mindless rock/endless tom triplets/more for the visual show than anyth'g], but I loved the way he played in the tunes on their albums]...even tho it seems that they actually make a 'mistake' in Hot 4 Teach: 1/2way thru the gtr solo, the whole band goes into several synchopated triplet-patterns that r 'layered' over the DB swg/shuf/rock gruv, but musically it seems like they actually come out of them too quickly [in other words, they shouldve completed 10 full trip patts & ended on the next note [snare back/upbeat], w/ the next immediate note being the downbeat [the 1, thus "start'g" the gruv again]...seems like they "cut it [too] short of-"...too tired right now to try to document it without actual music notation...maybe later...if u listen to the tune, you'll "see" what i mean.... [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 07, 2003 03:42 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
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January 7th, 2003, 01:30 PM
#27
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Matt Chamberlain, anyone?
especially his work with the first two Edie Brickell & New Bohemians projects. There's a "latiny" feeling tune they did called Carmelito from Edie's Ghost of a Dog. Grooooooooovy.
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January 7th, 2003, 02:29 PM
#28
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The "Ghost of a Dog" is a killer album!!! I loved Matt C's playing on this! Also, another Matt that is cool is Matt Cameron from Soundgarden. Check out "Badmotorfinger", great playing there!!!!!
Oh yeah, how could I forget JD Blair on Victor Wooten's "What Did He Say?" cd. Mondo groove!!
Mike
"If'n you don't do nuffin' else...GROOVE!" - JD Blair
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January 7th, 2003, 06:15 PM
#29
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Yea, Supertramp is great. The Logical Song...
The groove to 'No Conditions' by Bad Brains is really cool. Iggy Pop 'Lust for Life'.
MethodAir
www.electricmountain.com
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January 7th, 2003, 06:43 PM
#30
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Nume, D[rum]G - Right!...3 more that I 'overlooked' [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] ...
MAir - thanx 4 the tip on those last 2 [Brains & Ig]; i'll havta check em out...
...& I have VicW's WDHS w/ JD - he also has the Shania road gig [whether u like her or not], & he does a lot of other good session work/live dates w/ some other heavy-hitters around Nashville...what does that tell ya?...that quote says it all - "Yo, VIC-tah!...[Yeah, JD?...]...Whas'n EVVA you do, I wantchu to reMEMBA' this here...[Yeah?]... - you caint HOLD no GROOVE, if you AINT-GOT-no pocket"...[yeah]... [VicW/A Show of Hands/"U Cant Hold No Groove"].... [img]cool.gif[/img]
...& YES! - Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver" was always a splendidly SUPERB gruv!! [Keltner or Newmark?...hope it's not like Seal's '94 disc - the 1 w/ 'Kiss fr a Rose' - it lists all the musician's in 1 large paragraph, & u r left to decipher who's on which trax [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img] ]....
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 07, 2003 03:48 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
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